Apr 21, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01
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#21
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Desert Nomad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
He's speccing hard into smiting here.
Signet of Removal will do the trick. All I was saying is that it's bad to use your elite for e-management, especially when the elite won't be used properly.
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I'm sorry but in the ops current build the only e-management is the elite. take it out and the hero will spam his skills until his energy runs dry and than he's useless. yes signet of removal may work as it's a signet but meh, your hero should do more than spam signet of removal
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Apr 21, 2008, 09:04 PM // 21:04
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#22
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Guild: why should you kno? Oo
Profession: A/W
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true
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Apr 21, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08
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#23
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Alcoholic From Yale
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zling
I'm sorry but in the ops current build the only e-management is the elite. take it out and the hero will spam his skills until his energy runs dry and than he's useless. yes signet of removal may work as it's a signet but meh, your hero should do more than spam signet of removal
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It's my whole point - is the build getting maximum efficiency for the requirement of elite e-management?
No.
Zealot's Fire, unless you're tanking with the bloody hero, will not provide enough damage output to warrant its energy demand. We can argue about the elite but that's ignoring the greater issue here - the bar can be more efficient.
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Apr 21, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11
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#24
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Guild: why should you kno? Oo
Profession: A/W
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It already has Smite Hex/Condiotion, Zealot's is there to add some more damage to these skills. Signet of Removal is not needed in my opinion but good e-management is.
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Apr 21, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15
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#25
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Alcoholic From Yale
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor
It already has Smite Hex/Condiotion, Zealot's is there to add some more damage to these skills. Signet of Removal is not needed in my opinion but good e-management is.
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At your spec (10) ZF is dealing 25 fire damage a shot. You have 4 spells on your bar that target an ally, each with a recharge of 8-12. That means the damage output from ZF will be very low - it's why Searing Flames is not very good in HM but physical damage with buffs is.
Your 25 fire damage will be reduced to something quite little (let's assume by 25%, so rounding up, 19) and your hero isn't spamming skills every second to compensate for the significantly reduced damage.
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Apr 21, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19
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#26
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Guild: why should you kno? Oo
Profession: A/W
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Yeah, on some targets ZF's damage is quite minor.
On other hand when this hero uses, say, Smite Hex or Condition on a character mobs do scatter from that character so it can be useefull to repell mobs from backline. ;\
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Apr 22, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17
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#27
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BrisneyLand
Guild: Sphincter Says [What]
Profession: W/
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Looks strangely familiar, not so random afterall. Swap the primaries, toss in a couple of Resto's, lose some e-management (Heroes are bad m'kay) and add a crap AoE attack and hey presto!...Igor's "invented" a new build.
Both are weak builds, i wouldn't bother.
Last edited by Antithesis; Apr 22, 2008 at 01:32 AM // 01:32..
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Apr 22, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26
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#28
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Drop Zealot's Fire for [[castigation signet], then take a useful utility elite - [[empathic removal] or [[signet of removal] come to mind. You can argue till you're blue in the face, but it won't make the pitiable damage from ZF worth the energy drain and skill slot.
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Apr 22, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18
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#29
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: Eternal Insight
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis
Looks strangely familiar, not so random afterall. Swap the primaries, toss in a couple of Resto's, lose some e-management (Heroes are bad m'kay) and add a crap AoE attack and hey presto!...Igor's "invented" a new build.
Both are weak builds, i wouldn't bother.
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Huh. No wai.
This build is almost identical to this:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10279257
Except on a rit rather than a monk.
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Apr 22, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46
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#30
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BrisneyLand
Guild: Sphincter Says [What]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey
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Yeah, that too
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Apr 22, 2008, 03:54 PM // 15:54
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#31
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Guild: why should you kno? Oo
Profession: A/W
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These are monks, mine is a rit, read carefully.
The builds you linked to are not random either then, just taken from teh PvX, anyhow, I was inspired by Rt/N Phisical Support build when making this. I know its kinda weak, just an attempt to create a Smite/Chan Rit build.
P.S. Alex, i wasnt arguing in this post, just whant to see what you guys will tell.
~Super Igor ~
Last edited by Super Igor; Apr 22, 2008 at 03:57 PM // 15:57..
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Apr 23, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49
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#32
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: Eternal Insight
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor
These are monks, mine is a rit, read carefully.
The builds you linked to are not random either then, just taken from teh PvX, anyhow, I was inspired by Rt/N Phisical Support build when making this. I know its kinda weak, just an attempt to create a Smite/Chan Rit build.
P.S. Alex, i wasnt arguing in this post, just whant to see what you guys will tell.
~Super Igor ~
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Mines not from PvX, read closely when you scourge that site. Yours it a Rit, with the exact same skills, except Zealots Fire, while mine is a monk. I wouldn't say this is random. Plus, the hero sucks, I totally gave up on it for a N/Rt healer with just Splinter.
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Apr 23, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55
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#33
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Guild: why should you kno? Oo
Profession: A/W
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I nearly always use Rt/N, I like the powerful AR/SW and some nec hexes and ench removal aswell. I care little about what is your build and were it comes from neither I see how is it connected tothis build here.
As I already said, this was just a random idea to add some minor AoE for me while filling in my book as an Ursan and to see how heroes behave with the DZ hex, thats it, smiting still remains a weak PvE att.
~Super Igor ~
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